Bache raho bache raho ham nahin jaanen
Posted on: July 12, 2011
As rare songs go, this song is rarest of the rare, as they say in legal parlance. 🙂 So rare in fact that very little information is available on this song. What I know for sure is that this song is from “Tilasmi Duniya” (1946). Another information that is exciting for music lovers is that Sajjad Hussain is the music director !
I am always on the lookout for Sajjad Hussain songs. I have so far discussed 55 songs composed by him (out of around 100 that he composed). The remaining songs are too elusive, and many of them are presumed to be lost for ever. So it is always a time to rejoice if one is able to discover one of these lost songs. And this is very much a lost song discovered again.
The sound quality of this song is not great. There is considerable noise in the recording and as a result, I have not been able to get the lyrics right completely to my satisfaction and there are many gaps in the lyrics. I request readers to point out the missing words/sentences that I have been unable to get.
Even the details of the singer and lyricist of this song is not available. So I am unable to tell who has sung this song and who has written it. The voice does sound a bit similar to voices of singers that I may have heard in the past, but I do not want to hazard a guess. I request our knowledgeable readers to fill us in with these details.
PS-Now, thanks to some amazing reserch work by Mr Arunkumar Deshmukh, it is revealed that the singer is Sitara Devi and lyricist is Hamid Hyderabadi. I, as well as all Hindi movie music lovers are indebted to Mr Arunkumar Deshmukh for making this discovery.
Song-Bache raho bache raho ham nahin jaanen (Tilasmi Duniya) (1946) Singer-Sitara Devi, Lyrics-Hamid Hyderabadi, MD-Sajjad Hussain
Lyrics
bache raho
bache raho
ham nahin jaane
kaahu ke lag jaaye preet
kaahu ke lag jaaye preet
bache raho
bache raho
ham nahin jaane
kaahu ke lag jaaye preet
kaahu ke lag jaaye preet
???
???
ran mein bade bade ranbeer
kahin halaal na kar den
kahin halaal na kar den
????
??? koi
birhaa ?? dil mein lage
????? koi
birhaa ?? dil mein lage
bache raho
bache raho
ham nahin jaane
kaahu ke lag jaaye preet
kaahu ke lag jaaye preet
jo vipad(??) saamne aaye
to ye samajh lenaa
aaa aaa aaa
jo vipad (??) saamne aaye
to ye samajh lenaa
salaamti hai ??? ki
khair hai dil ki
salaamti hai ??? ki
khair hai dil ki
charchha lagega
??
charchha lagega
??
hogi ?? ginti
hogi ?? ginti
bache raho
bache raho
ham nahin jaane
kaahu ke lag jaaye preet
kaahu ke lag jaaye preet
10 Responses to "Bache raho bache raho ham nahin jaanen"
July 16, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Atul ji,
The day I recd. your mail about this song details,I could not devote much time to search info. satisfacotrily,as I had to leave for abroad same day.
However,after coming back I started collecting info.,but soon I realised that the task was Herculean,as no clues were available.
Undaunted I used all my resources and at last,I am able to solve this mystery.The story is going to be a bit lengthy,but worth it.
In 1946,Sajjad Hussain(SH),agreed to give music to Tilasmi Duniya to help a relative-a small time producer by the name Altaf Hussain,under the banner of Jupiter Art.The cast was Shiraz-Hero (Bhedi Trishul,Cyclewali,Chabukwali,Midnight Mail,Jadui Bandhan etc)
Sitara Devi-Heroine (kathak dancer,star,and sister of Gopi Krishna dancer)
Sarla Devi (Bulbul,Her highness,Toofani taqrar etc)
Sitarampant Kulkarni (only this film)
Madhukar Gupte (Patit Pawan,Mera Imaan,Cinema queen etc)
A.M.Ansari (Khota paisa,Fareb,Baazi,Toofan etc.Later on he also worked as Visual effect artist for Yaadon ki Baarat).
The producer was a cheat.He had selected,intentionally,artists who were ordinary and needy,except Sitara Devi-who was well known those days.
The movie had 10 songs.It was released in Dec 1946 and in April 1947 the producer Altaf Hussain ran away to Lahore as Pakistan was to be formed soon.,with all the prints and other materials without paying anything to anybody,except Sitara Devi who got her money.
All this happened in such great hurry that due to paucity of funds (payments to musicians etc.) Sajjad could make records of only 3 songs:
1. Durga Mata o Sukh Data
2.Bache Raho bache Raho and
3. details not found of this song.
The first was sung by Sarla Devi and the Lyrics were of Madhup Sharma,
the second was sung by Sitara Devi and lyrics for this and the third song were by Hamid Hyderabadi (kasam-1947).
Sajjad did not get any money.All his musicians were poor and needed money.To help them,he handed over the lyrics,tunes and notations of all songs to Allah Baksh,leader of the musicians.They sold these things to other Music composers and shared the money.(This is what Sudhirji has pointed out that 3 songs were used in another film.)The fate of other songs is not known.
This sad incident and the cheating made Sajjad very bitter.He became very possessive,proud,haughty and consequently self centred.
There you are,Atul ji,with answers to your query ! (Incidently,this was a tough call for me.)
A small note on Madhup Sharma-actor,writer,poet and lyricist.He was the eldest among Mahesh Sharma(a noted Photographer and Corporate A.V.maker) and Pratap Sharma (the famous broadcaster,dubbing artist and famous voice over for india’s important news documentaries.)
When I was working with Mahesh Sharma for an A.V.Presentation in our company (Glaxo),Madhup Sharma took us to Ashok Kumar at his Chembur Bungalow for a shoot.I remember having taken many photos with Ashok Kumar that day,in 1982.
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July 16, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Fantastic discovery ! And what a tale behind the making of this song. This fact about this movie are not known to anyone. Now thanks to your painstaking research, we now know the lyricists and singers behind the two songs. Now we also know that all the songs of this movie were not recorded, unlke what we read on internet (where it is mentioned that more songs of this movie were recorded. And now we also know about the singers and lyricists of these songs.Thanks a lot for taking so much trouble to unearth the facts behind this song.
We centainly missed you for the last few days. welcome back.
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July 16, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Arun ji,
Great to have you connected again. There were a couple of comments where folks were missing your notes 🙂
And rightly so. The detailed information you have provided is hardly available anywhere, not even for searching.
In the interim, I have some additional info and good news of sorts. When you say Sajjaad Saab could make records of only 3 songs, that is partly correct. Actually Sajjaad Saab was able to make 3 records, i.e. 6 songs got recorded, under the label of Columbia records. One of these records carries the two songs listed above, and both are now posted on this blog. Just providence that I have been able to locate the other two records with a friend of mine and am getting the audio copy of these recordings from him by early next week. That will be 4 more songs from this movie to add to the Sajjaad Hussain collection here.
Rgds
Sudhir
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July 16, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Fantastic news. This way, we are really making some amazing contributions for the cause of Hindi movie music through our exchanges of information.
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July 16, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Sudhir ji,
Thanks to you and others too.
You are right.It cannot be that 3 songs are recorded.Either it has to be 2 or 4 songs.It transpires that it was 3 records and not songs.I am happy that more songs are available.
There are constraints when you collect information on old songs or films.You can not ask for clarification.You have to simply decode it yourself,because there is nobody to answer you.
It always is a pleasure to be useful to others in some way or the other.
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December 16, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Arunkumar ji,
Here is some more information about the songs of Talismi Duniya There were in all nine songs in the movie. The remaining songs are
1]Chhair de mun ke taar
2] Majboorian tou dekho
3]Holi phhir se aiee
4]Rut aiee hai kar kay singha
Out of these songs, song Nos 1and2 and another song Sainyan be-iman were used in Parasram
In the same year another movie directed by A.M.Khan Talismi Heera was also released for which Sajjad Hussain had composed music. It had a’ C’ class cast comprising of Yushwant,Ameena,Shobha Qurban Jan etc. no song of this film is available.
PS;- Sitari Devi was not in the cast of Talismi Duniya.
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December 17, 2011 at 2:20 am
Khwaja Saab,
Asslaam Ailequm,
As I have written earlier also, we really appreciate your contributions to this blog, both in terms of songs and information.
My source of information is not firsthand, and I depend a lot of the Hindi Film Geet Kosh, which is a monumental compilation by Harmandir JI ‘Hamraaz’ of Kanpur. I know Harmandir ji through direct interactions, and also that this compilation is backed by very detailed research and authentication.
As per the Geet Kosh, the film Tilasmi Duniya (1946) had 10 songs in all. Of these, three songs are repeated in the film Parshuram (1947). The repeated songs are
1. Meri Laya Mein Padey Kaise
2. Kyaa Kahoon Raat Ki Baat Sakhi Ree
3. Bache Raho, Hum Nahin Jaane
The above three songs are confirmed as listed for the the film Parshuram also.
Regarding Tilasmi Heera – the actual name of this film is
‘Noor-e-Arab’, and Tilasmi Heera is an alternate name for this film. As per the Geet Kosh, the music for this film is composed by S. Habib.
Rgds
Sudhir
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December 16, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Sorry for a spelling mistake.Please read SITARA DEVI for Sitari Devi.
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December 17, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Dear Mr.Sudhir Kapur ji.
Regards. You are absolutely right that Sajjad Hussain had never composed music for any movie titled Talismi Heera.The information contained in Geet Kosh is more authentic Some writers attribute the music of Hoor-i-Arab to Khurshid Anwar which is also not correct.I may be wrong about the three songs later repeated in Parshuram. Thank you for providing correct information.
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July 13, 2011 at 2:41 am
Atul ji,
What a find; as you said it, every discovery of a rare piece from an artist whose offerings are available in limited numbers is an occasion to celebtrate. Congratulations.
Regarding the lyrics writer and singer, there is no additional information available even in the Geet Kosh. There is however one pointer. A foot note says that this song was re-used in the 1947 religious movie, Parshuram. In the listing for that movie, the singer is identified as Shamabai, the lyricist as Pt. Betaab and the composer is Master Ratanlal. What is not specified whether the song was re-used only in terms of lyrics, or was the song recording from Tilasmi Duniya was re-used as is. Some info, but not much clarity yet.
Rgds
Sudhir
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