Tumne na suna jisko
Posted on: September 20, 2014
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Regulars may have noticed that I have discussed lots of Suraiyya songs in the recent past and now we have reached close to her total tally of HFM songs that she sang. In my previous writeup on Suraiyya, I had given some figures about her songs. Here, in this writeup, I give the findings of my research on Suraiyya songs.
Two lists of Suraiyya songs exist online. One is the list of cineplot and another is the list of myswar. HFGK is the basic source material for both these lists, but still the two lists vary from each other in some respects and come up with different tallies.
We in this blog posted Suraiyya songs without consulting any lists. Once we reached the double century of Suraiyya earlier this year, I decided that I needed to post the remaining songs of Suraiyya at a faster rate. I was informed about the cineplot list of Suraiyya songs and I referred to this list quite often while looking for Suraiyya songs to post.
I became aware about the myswar list just a few days ago through a comment on my last article on Suraiyya. I have now gone through the content of this list also.
While searching for Suraiyya songs based on the abovementioned list, I found some errors of different natures which had remained uncorrected and as such the tallies shown in the list were not correct. I was able to detect these discrepancies because I went through each of these songs minutely in the process of listening to these songs.
Nitin Shah sent me tons of Suraiyya songs once I decided to discuss them regularly. His contributions in this mission of posting all Suraiyya songs has been immense.
Based on both the lists and after ignoring incorrect/ duplicate entries, I have come to the conclusion that the total number of HFM songs that Suraiyya sang in her two decades long career (1942-1963) stands at 324.
The full details of all her songs, giving the yaerwise list of movies and the number of songs sung by her in the movie are given in the following table. Figures like (7/8) means that 7 Suraiyya songs have been discussed in the blog while 8 songs were sung by Suraiyya.
Yearwise breakup of Suraiyya songs
| Year | Number of movies with Suraiyya songs | Names of movies | Number of Suraiyya songs discussed | Number of songs sung by Suraiyya in these movies | balance songs left to be discussed |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1942 | 4 | Nayi Duniya(1/1), Sharda(2/3) one multiple version song, Station Master(2/2), Tamanna(1/1) |
6 | 7 | 1 |
| 1943 | 4 | Hamaari Baat(4/4), Ishaara(2/3), Kaanoon(4/4), Sanjog(5/5) |
15 | 16 | 1 |
| 1945 | 4 | Main Kya Karoon(5/5) one multiple version song, Phool(1/3), Samrat Chandragupta(2/3), Tadbeer(3/5) |
11 | 16 | 5 |
| 1946 | 4 | 1857(4/4), Anmol Ghadi(3/3), Jagbeeti(4/4), Omar Khayyam(0/4) |
11 | 15 | 4 |
| 1947 | 5 | Daak Bangla(6/6), Dard(5/5), Do Dil(6/6), Naatak (5/6), Parwaana(4/4) |
26 | 27 | 1 |
| 1948 | 7 | Aaj Ki Raat(7/7), Gajre(4/4), Kaajal(5/5), Pyaar Ki Jeet(5/5), Rang Mahal (3/3), Shakti (4/4) Vidya(5/5) |
33 | 33 | 0 |
| 1949 | 11 | Amar Kahaani(6/6), Balam (7/7), Badi Bahan (4/4), Chaar Din(4/5), Dillagi(8/8), Duniya(8/8), Jeet (6/6), Lekh (5/5), Naach (6/6), Shair (5/5), Singaar(5/5) |
64 | 65 | 1 |
| 1950 | 6 | Afsar(5/5), Daastaan (9/9), Kamal Ke Phool(5/5), Khilaadi(6/6), Neeli(7/7), Shaan (6/7) |
38 | 39 | 1 |
| 1951 | 4 | Do Sitaare(4/4), Rajput (3/4), Sanam(11/11), Shokhiyaan(4/5) |
22 | 24 | 2 |
| 1952 | 6 | Deewaana(5/5), Goonj (6/6), Khoobsoorat(3/4), Laal Kunwar(4/4), Moti Mahal(4/4), Resham (4/4) |
26 | 27 | 1 |
| 1953 | 1 | Maashhoka(6/6) | 6 | 6 | 0 |
| 1954 | 4 | Bilwamangal(6/7) 7th song available, Mirza Ghalib (6/6), Shama Parwana(8/8), Waaris(7/7)one multiple version song |
27 | 28 | 1 |
| 1955 | 1 | Inaam(2/4) | 2 | 4 | 2 |
| 1956 | 1 | Mr Lambu(3/3) | 3 | 3 | 0 |
| 1958 | 4 | Maalik(3/4), Miss 58 (1/1), Taqdeer (2/2), Trolley Driver (2/3) |
8 | 10 | 2 |
| 1961 | 1 | Shama(3/3) | 3 | 3 | 0 |
| 1963 | 1 | Rustam Sohrab(1/1) | 1 | 1 | 0 |
Note:- The six songs of “Amar Kahaani”(1949), a Suraiyya starrer movie, were reused in “Kanchan” (1955), a non Suraiyya movie which is not mentioned here as it would result in duplication of the same songs.
myswar, in their listing of Suraiyya songs erroneously mention four non Suraiyya songs as Suraiyya songs, viz. (1) one song from “Shama” (1961) Shaguftagi ka latafat ka (actually sung by Nimmi), (2) Kitne door hain huzoor (Pyaar Ki Jeet)(1948) actually sung by Surinder Kaur, (3) “Kashmir Hamaara Hai”(1948) song with lyrics “Dile Naadaan tujhe hua kya hai”, a song whose singers are not known has been attributed to Suraiyya and Talat Mehmood just because they have sung a song with identical lyrics in “Mirza Ghalib” (1954) (4) One song “Ye rang birangi dor” from “Mazdoor” (1945), actually sung by Amirbai Karnataki and Manna Dey has been attributed to Suraiyya.
“Omar Khayyam” (1946) had four Suraiyya songswhich I had failed to coun t earlier. These four songs are not available as of now.
Cineplot listing contains the songs of “Amar Kahaani”(1949) as well as “Kanchan”(1955), thus counting the same songs twice. Cineplot also counts version songs of “Shama” (1946) which were got recorded in Suraiyya’s voice which had nothing to do with the movie. I have not counted these version songs. Cineplot also mentions two songs of “Tajmahal” (1941) and one additional song of “Station Master” (1942) as containing Suraiyya’s voice. HFGK do not mention these songs as Suraiyya songs and so I have not considered these songs in my list. I am not sure if anyone has heard the two songs of Suraiyya in “Tajmahal” (1941). I have heard the “Station Master” (1942) song (ye rail hamaare ghar ki) which is mentioned as a Rajkumari Suraiyya duet. That song is in fact sung by Raj Kumari, Prem Adib and chorus. So if Suraiyya’s voice is there, it has to be in the chorus and it cannot be described as a Suraiyya song. Cineplot listing has some other mistakes too, viz counting one Suraiyya song from “Kamal Ke Phool” (1950) as two separate Suraiyya songs and counting a Shamshad Begam song as a Suraiyya song. Suraiyya has sung five songs in “Kaajal” (1948) according to HFGK, but cineplot mentions a sixth Suraiyya song (Pardesi re jaate) which does not seem to exist going by my search. One Suraiyya song of “Phool” (1945)has been counted twice. Likewise, one Suraiyya song in “Laal Kunwar” (1952) has been counted twice. In “Parwaana” (1947), a K L Saigal song “Toot gaye sab sapne mere” has been counted as a Suraiyya song.
In Summary, I have counted a grand total of 324 Suraiyya songs that She has sung in HFM. 302 of them have been discussed in the blog, counting each multiple version song as two songs. But we in this blog count multiple version songs as one song since they are discussed in one writeup, so our count is lesser than what it should be. so we are at 299 Suraiyya songs in the blog because we have had 299 writeups for songs sung by Suraiyya. So this writeup is the 300th and by our definition this is the 300th Suraiyya song in the blog.
Before we discuss the 300th Suraiyya song, here is the list of 22 Suraiyya songs that remain to be discussed. A few of them are available. Hopefully we will be able to locate the remaining songs as well.
| Year | Number of missing songs | Details of the missing songs |
|---|---|---|
| 1942 | 1 | Mere dil ko sajan samjha do (Shaarda) Duet version by Nirmala Devi and Suraiyya |
| 1943 | 1 | Rang rangeela phaagun aaya (Ishaara) mentioned in cineplot as sung by Suraiyya and Parul Ghosh, HFGK silent on the issue |
| 1945 | 5 | Naina baawre pi bina (Phool), Ab dwaar pe aayi hai (Phool), Chakori chanda ke angna (Samrat Chandragupta), O udne waale panchhi (Tadbeer) Tumne na suna jisko (Tadbeer) the song under discussion |
| 1947 | 1 | Taaron bhari raat hai sajan (Naatak) |
| 1949 | 1 | Koi jaane waale se keh do (Chaar Din) |
| 1950 | 1 | O pardesi balma(Shaan) |
| 1951 | 2 | Raat suhaani chanda chamke(Rajput) Aadhi aadhi raat dhola(Shokhiyaan) |
| 1952 | 1 | Kab talak mujhko rulaaoge ae chaand(Khoobsoorat) |
| 1954 | 1 | O deewaali ke diye(Bilwamangal) |
| 1955 | 2 | Najoomi hoon main kismat ka(Inaam) Tadbeer ka ho teer(Inaam) |
| 1958 | 2 | Sajna jaa main naahin boloon(Maalik) Morey man ki baat(Trolley Driver) |
Now, here is the 300th Suraiyya song (or rather post) in the blog. This song is one of the two as yet elusive songs from “Tadbeer” (1945). This song is sung by Suraiyya. Swami Ramanand is the lyricist. Music is composed by Lal Muhammad.
With this song, we reach a major landmark blog because Suraiyya is now on the verge of becoming the second major singer (after K L Saigal) who will have all her available HFM songs available in this blog. A few of the 22 missing songs are available with me. I request our knowledgeable readers to look out for these songs are inform us when they sight these elusive Suraiyya numbers.
Audio
Song-Tumne na suna jisko (Tadbeer)(1945) Singer-Suraiyya, Lyrics-Swami Ramanand, MD-Lal Muhammad
Lyrics
tumne na suna jisko
jo hamen sunaata thha
ashqon ki kahaani thhi
aahon ka fasaana thha
tumne na suna jisko
ab khaaq hua wo dil
ab khaaq hua wo dil
barbaad hua wo dil
barbaad hua wo dil
jismein teri aankhon ka
jismein teri aankhon ka
barson se thhikaana thha
tumne na suna jisko
tab dil bhi milaate thhe
haaye
tab dil bhi milaate thhe
haaye
ab aankh churaate ho
ab aankh churaate ho
ye kaisa zamaana hai
wo kaisa zamaana thha
tumne na suna jisko
beshaq na mila wo dil
beshaq na mila wo dil
itna to bataao tum
itna to bataao tum
kyun pyaar badhaaya thha
haaye
jab ?? ke jaan thha
tumne na suna jisko
jo hamen sunaata thha
25 Responses to "Tumne na suna jisko"
September 21, 2014 at 8:03 am
Atulji,
Thanks for the Labour of Love>>
hamne na suna jisko
wo aap ne sunaaya
Suraiyya ke gaane thhe
unki aawaaz me sunaaya
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September 21, 2014 at 11:02 am
You have already covered 3 songs from Ishaara (1943), not just 2:
-baagon mein koyal
-panghat pe muraliya
-shabnam kyun neer bahaye
So ur count becomes 324 right there.
now if u want to include rang rangeela phagun as per Cineplot, that would become no 325.
baagon mein koyal with its duet and solo version should be counted twice like all other version songs in the list. and so count becomes 326.
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September 21, 2014 at 11:44 am
I have counted the multiple versions twice when arriving at the total list.
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September 21, 2014 at 1:33 pm
Your table above says 2/3 for Ishara, while it should be 4/5 cause u have posted 3 songs already and one of them is multiple version and one to be posted from Cineplot. So it becomes 326. Just check ur table above.
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September 21, 2014 at 2:24 pm
As pointed out, “Shabnam kyun neer bahaaye” is not sung by Suraiyya (but by Gauhar Sultana) so this song is not counted in the list of Suraiyya songs.
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September 21, 2014 at 2:46 pm
Correct. My mistake. Still it should be 3/4 and not 2/3 as mentioned in ur table. Do u agree? And that would make it 325. You havent counted version song twice here.
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September 21, 2014 at 12:36 pm
I think this is a very accurate account of Suraiya Songs. Our count is 325 because we count the duet/solo versions of Baaghon Mein Koyal from Ishaara (1943) as 2 separate songs instead of 1 like u r doing. Also noticed from ur table that u have stated one song from Ishaara is still in balance, but I think u have covered all 3 songs:
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September 21, 2014 at 1:44 pm
Shabnam kyun neer bahaaye is sung by Gauhar Sultana.
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September 21, 2014 at 12:41 pm
Atul ji,
Many Thanks for the elegant post , the tables and the statistics.
A minor clarification please.
The list of missing songs add up to 18 out of which one is the 300th song discussed. So that leaves with 17 as per the table. So what is this “22” figure.
Lastly in either case, it will be better if readers are put to task to search only for the songs that you don’t have as you say some are available with you.
Regards
mahesh
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September 21, 2014 at 1:04 pm
Analysis of your survey:
Mere dil ko sajan samjha do (Shaarda) It is covered by you earlier
According to your List songs yet to be posted
1) Rang rangeela phaagun aaya (Ishaara)
2) Naina baawre pi bina (Phool),
3) Ab dwaar pe aayi hai (Phool),
4) Chakori chanda ke angna (Samrat Chandragupta),
5) O udne waale panchhi (Tadbeer)
6)Taaron bhari raat hai sajan (Naatak)
7) Koi jaane waale se keh do (Chaar Din)
8) O pardesi balma(Shaan) sent to you
9) Raat suhaani chanda chamke(Rajput)
10) Aadhi aadhi raat dhola(Shokhiyaan)
11) Kab talak mujhko rulaaoge ae chaand(Khoobsoorat)
12) O deewaali ke diye(Bilwamangal) sent to you
13) Najoomi hoon main kismat ka(Inaam)
14) Tadbeer ka ho teer(Inaam)
15) Sajna jaa main naahin boloon(Maalik)
16) Morey man ki baat(Trolley Driver)
According to my List songs to be posted
17) Afsar> jhat khol de kiwad patt khole de
18) Char Din>qismat ki baat hai
19) Inaam>jhukega yeh zamana
20) Naach> aaja mere balma bahana kar ke
21) Resham>chute asir to badla hua zamana thha
22) Taqdeer>aankh purnam labo pe dam ho …bewafa karke zafa
List of songs sent to you yet to be posted:
23) Bilwamangal> o diwali ke diye
24) Goonj>ye lehraake balkhaake raahe
25) Moti Mahal> koi lakh kahe aisa waisa
26) Mashooqa> ek aas ek aasra hai
27) Naach> Ishq me mehrumiya, naqamiya, badnamiya>sent to you
28) Neeli> mere naino me koi aaya
29) Rajput>ye pyar ki manzil pe…ek aag mere dil me
30) Shaan> o pardesi balma
31) Sanam>honto pe kisi ka naam
32) Tadbeer> rani khol de apne dwar
33) Taqdeer> botal me band
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September 21, 2014 at 3:30 pm
As for songs in your list from 17 to 33, here is their status:
17) Afsar> jhat khol de kiwad patt khole de- It is sung by Manmohan Krishna as per HFGK
18) Char Din>qismat ki baat hai- It has been posted https://atulsongaday.me/2014/09/17/arre-qismat-ki-baat-hai/
19) Inaam>jhukega yeh zamana – I am not aware of this song. This song is not mentioned in HFGK either. This could be the same song as “Tadbeer ka ho teer aur taqdeer nishaana” which is the only missing Suraiyya song from this movie.
20) Naach> aaja mere balma bahana kar ke- It is posted as https://atulsongaday.me/2014/04/26/baat-takoon-main-teri-kothhe-chadhh-ke/
21) Resham>-chute asir to badla hua zamana thha– It is posted as https://atulsongaday.me/2014/05/29/ro-ro-haare-nain-hamaare/
22) Taqdeer>aankh purnam labo pe dam ho …bewafa karke zafa– It is posted as https://atulsongaday.me/2014/04/04/o-bewafa-karke-jafaa/
List of songs sent to you yet to be posted:
23) Bilwamangal> o diwali ke diye -It is available (meant for Diwali)
24) Goonj>ye lehraake balkhaake raahebe – This song is not sung by Suraiyya- It is sung by Rafi, Umadevi and Trilok Kapoor as per HFGK
25) Moti Mahal> koi lakh kahe aisa waisa-It is posted as https://atulsongaday.me/2011/09/04/jab-teri-meri-meri-teri-ek-marzi/
26) Mashooqa> ek aas ek aasra hai-It is posted as https://atulsongaday.wordpress.com/2011/02/19/aao-shyaam-sundar-ab-to-shaam-ho-chali-jeewan-ki/
27) Naach> Ishq me mehrumiya, naqamiya, badnamiya>sent to you-Posted as https://atulsongaday.me/2014/04/30/jo-tum-badley-jahaan-badla/
28) Neeli> mere naino me koi aaya–It is sung by Shamshad Begam
29) Rajput>ye pyar ki manzil pe…ek aag mere dil me–There are five Suraiyya songs in this movie. Four are posted. lyrics of fifth are sent by you. But there is no song with this lyrics in Rajput.
30) Shaan> o pardesi balma-Yes, this song lyrics is sent by you
31) Sanam>honto pe kisi ka naam–It is posted as https://atulsongaday.me/2011/02/28/iskaa-kyaa-matlab-hai/
32) Tadbeer> rani khol de apne dwar- This K L saigal Suraiyya duet was posted long back as https://atulsongaday.wordpress.com/2011/07/30/karle-nainon-se-nainaa-do-chaar/
33) Taqdeer> botal me band–Lyrics of this song sent by you are available with me
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September 21, 2014 at 6:53 pm
I just checked up and found that song number 33. Bottle mein band jawaani is a Rafi song and not Suraiyya song, so this song cannot be counted in the discussion.
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September 21, 2014 at 3:38 pm
The count of songs in a movie mentioned by me are for Suraiyya songs and not for all songs of that movie. Three songs from “Ishaara” have been discussed. I earlier counted them as two. One more Suraiyya song is yet to be discussed.
I was counting “baaghon mein koyal” as a single song based on HFGK entry. Now I realise based on the writeup that this is in fact a multiple version song. (lesson-I should update my copy of HFGK with pencil).
Yes, it becomes 3/4 in that case.
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September 21, 2014 at 3:49 pm
‘Raat suhani chanda chamke saajaan aa’ – Rajput (1951)
Audio link is available. This song will appear soon in the ‘Chaandni Raaten’ series.
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September 21, 2014 at 4:41 pm
Mukhda :
tumne na suna jisko
‘ jo ham ne sunaana thha ‘
Last stanza :
kyun pyaar badhaaya thha
haaye
jab ‘ rootth ‘ ke jaan thha
tumne na suna jisko
‘ jo ham ne sunaana thha ‘
Prelude and interlude music is similar to the tune of :
zinda hoon iss tarah ke gham-e-zindagi nahin – Aag (1948)
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September 21, 2014 at 8:57 pm
Atul ji, Nitin ji,
Regarding entry no. 29 on the list,
29) Rajput>ye pyar ki manzil pe…ek aag mere dil me–There are five Suraiyya songs in this movie. Four are posted. lyrics of fifth are sent by you. But there is no song with this lyrics in Rajput.
This song is from film ‘Khilaadi’ of 1950, and it is already posted – https://atulsongaday.me/2012/02/04/ye-pyaar-ki-manzil-se-mujhe-kisne-sadaa-di/.
Rgds
Sudhir
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September 21, 2014 at 9:35 pm
Sudhir ji,
HFGK shows only 4 songs of Suraiya in film Rajpoot-51. Then which is the 5th song ?
-AD
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September 21, 2014 at 9:41 pm
There is no fifth Suraiyya song in this movie. Sudhir ji was also making this point in his comment.
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September 21, 2014 at 10:28 pm
Here is the Suraiya song from Rajput (1951), not yet posted in the blog :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa1jY8ur2vQ
Listed at myswar.com :
http://myswar.com/song_details/rajput-1951-raat-suhani-chanda-chamke-balam-aa-ja-6
This song is not among the 5 songs posted in the blog. This may be checked again.
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September 21, 2014 at 10:31 pm
This is the fourth Suraiyya song from “Rajput”(1951). The five songs posted in the blog include three Suraiyya songs and two non Suraiyya songs.
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September 29, 2014 at 7:54 am
Just to point out :
This Suraiya song hasn’t matched with HFGK, so there may or may not be 2 songs due from this movie: Baharon Ka Zamana, Teer Nazron Ke Chalaaiye
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September 20, 2014 at 8:14 pm
Great Atul ji ,and congratulations on 300th song of Suraiyya ji on the blog ..!!
Nice detailed informative post too. Great efforts taken to reach this milestone. Congrats again !
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