11 Responses to "Aurat Ke Dil Pe Kya Guzre"
Atulji/Sudhir ji
Thanks for your article
Swaminathan, a humble fan of Rafi Sahab here (the song here was uploaded by me in YT. I used to try to ferret out rare numbers of Rafi Sahab from the net and post them. Now luckily majority of his songs are available)
A very nice analysis. But in my view the fact remains that Rafi Sahab, who was already a star, was catapulted to superstar status by Baiju Bawra.
Two more milestone films in my view were CID and Tumsa Nahin Dekha, pairing him with Johnny and Shammi respectively. Apart from the large number of songs, this was invention of two distinct genres by the combos
Aradhana was a sad milestone, where he was for a shortwhile eclipsed by Kishore Kumar.
However another comeback in Laila Majnu
Then Allah snatched him away.
Not before a treasure of 5000 plus songs for us fans
Great job in this blog Atulji and team
Carry on
All the best
Regards
Swaminathan
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Dear Swaminathan ji,
Thanks so much for you comment and your inputs. You are right in saying that with ‘Baiju Baawra’, Rafi Sb went to be a superstar, from being a star.
This analysis was prompted by some earlier discussions amongst another group of friends where someone had commented that it was the film ‘Baiju Baawra’ that really made Rafi Sb. When I went back to check and found that there are approx 450 songs by Rafi Sb in the years prior to 1952, I felt I had to write this up.
In the article above I did not even include the mention about another discussion I was part of last month, where another dear friend, a serious fan of SD Burman, expressed his belief that Rafi Sb that is Rafi Sb was made only after singing for SDB in the film ‘Pyaasa’ (1957). It was such a flabbergasting statement that I and others did not even pick an issue to argue.
Rgds
Sudhir
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@ Sudhir ji – thanks for this post on Rafi Saab’s journey and the important milestones.
Great post !!
( I had also sent this song (on 09.03.14) , so on the lighter side 🙂 avinash ke dil pe kya guzre ye aur koyi bhala kya jaane 🙂 )
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Sudhirji,
Thanks for squashing the dangerous myth about Rafi and BB.
You threw the book on the so called critics who should be severally criticized about propagating such bunkum. They need to swallow the humble pie if he is veggie or eat boiled crow if he is non-veggie. Figures says it all.
Surprisingly I heard this lovely song for the first time. Thanks for the treat.
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Dear Sudhir ji,
I fully endorse and accept your views. Rafi Sahab is not just Baiju Bawara. In fact there are so many songs of Husanlal Bhagatram, C.Ramachandra, Naushad Sahab, Pandit Govindram, Shyam Sunder and others (as you mentioned 450 odd songs, not counting Punjabi and Private recording ones).
However the two music directors who in my view embellished his Carrear and polished the diamond were Naushad and O P Nayyar ( in their own almost diametrically opposite contrasting ways).
Though they had only around 150 and 200 songs respectively with Rafi Sahab (compared with 400 odd of LP and SJ), majority of them were classics and masterpieces.
As regards S D Burman. Though many people treat RDB as anti Rafi Sahab, SDB was equally guilty of it. He used (no pun intended) Rafi Sahab in around 100 odd songs and Kishore da in around 110 odd songs. I have nothing against Kishore as a singer, but he was the only MD of his era to have used Kishore more, due to personal choices and preferances.
While there is no doubt that SDB was a great composer, in my humble view Rafi Sahab made him a superstar after Pysaa. I do not recollect any big superhits of SDB prior to this.
In fact Pyassa was a deadly combination of Rafi Sahab, SDB and Sahir. Sadly because of vanity/ ego hassles of Sahir and SDB, we could not get more classics like Pyassa (I am talking only of songs not the movie)
Rafi Sahab could churn out wonderful numbers even with the assistants of the famous MDs like G S Kohli or Jaidev (no disrespect meant for the assistants, but the unwritten caste system of Bollywood ensured that most never got big banners). Mana Mere Haseen Sanam from Adventures of Robinhood and Abhi na jao chod kar, are cases in the points.
I am glad and compliment you for not even picking up the issue and arguing against the SDB/Pyassa statement. It would be as futile as arguing with Pro Afzal supporters, who want to make a matyr out of a self confessed convicted terrorist.
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Dear Swaminathan ji,
From the group of stalwart music directors of the 40s, the one important name that chose not to use Rafi Sb, except in a handful of songs, is Anil Biswas. I have heard comments in discussions that Anil Da did not have a good opinion about Rafi’s singing, ascribing his voice only for sad songs of melancholy.
And further, let us also not take away the credit from SDB, for all the work he has done before Pyaasa – ‘Do Bhai’ (1947), ‘Mashaal’ (1950), ‘Baazi’, ‘Naujawaan’, ‘Sazaa’ (all 1951), ‘Jaal’ (1952), ‘Taxi Driver’ (1954), ‘Devdas’, ‘Munim ji’ and ‘House No.44’ (all 1955), ‘Funtoosh’ (1956) and then ‘Nau Do Gyaarah’, ‘Paying Guest’ along with ‘Pyaasa’ in 1957.
The special thing about SDB is he chose the singer as per the song to be sung. We find him assigning different singers to songs of the same film to be picturized on the same actor. E.g. ‘Manzil’ (1960), ‘Abhimaan’ (1973). He would often use Rafi Sb and Kishore Kumar in the same film, especially for Dev Anand. In fact even in ‘Aradhana’ (1969), he has two duets in the voice of Rafi Sb.
Best rgds
Sudhir
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Dear Sudhirji
You are spot on about Anil Biswas, one of the few MDs not to use Rafi Sahab (Salil Chowdhury was another).
I am not taking away any credit from SDB.
But you will agree that of the films listed above, Pyassa was a milestone and landmark film for SDB in terms of being a superhit.
Very surprisingly , almost shockingly SDB used Manna Dey even lesser than Rafi Sahab. Apparently just around 8 songs.
Guide and Pyassa will be two of his landmark albums I guess
Regards
Swaminathan
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Dear Atul ji
Nice to know that Jhumpa Lahiri is working in real world too (Namesake). Would love to meet.
Your blog is great, though I have set it aside as a feast , to be savored after retirement (I am 53), soaking in the songs, with occasional anecdotes about it. (Nibble it as a treat presently)
As I mentioned yesterday, I am a humble fan of Rafi Sahab (my knowledge about music other than Rafi Sahab is nil)
I used to upload on You Tube (say 2009 or so), and try to upload rare numbers of Rafi Sahab. In fact the internet has been the biggest boon for us music lovers, who can now download songs of their choice.
Thanks to the generosity of many Rafi Sahab fans, I have been able to collect 5000 plus songs of Rafi Sahab. I would like to acknowledge the contribution of channels of Rafiology and Ahsanbhai in particular, and am obligated to them to rebuild my collection (most of my cassettes had become warped)
Now luckily YT has bulk of the Rafi Sahab collection.
Your blog rocks and am sure it must be already making waves.
I also wish to compliment you and your team for not accepting a single ad in the website. Ads in music websites are like having chocolate with the wrapper on.
I am sanguine that you will not be allowing any ads in future too
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Trust BCR to come up with absolute gems from time to time.
Pandit Priyadarshi
Saiya Chup Chup Aan
Asha Bhosle
Moti Ram
Imaan (1951)
Dudh Ka Dudh Aur Pani Ka Pani
Asha Bhosle
Moti Ram
Imaan (1951)
Bachpan Ka Zamana Yaad Hai
Asha Bhosle, Talat Mahmood
Moti Ram
Imaan (1951)
Chupke Se Dil Me Mere Chori Chori
Sudha Malhotra
Bulo C Rani
Shikar (1955)
So Raha Jahaan Hai Jaagti Jawaniyan
S Balbir
Vinod
Mumtaz Mahal(1957)
Only 6 songs>should be more
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February 22, 2016 at 9:59 am
Atulbhai, Thank you for sharing such a beautiful composition by Rafisahab. You made my day. This is the type of songs that we appreciate and love to hear.
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