Kaise kahoon kuchh keh na sakoon
Posted on: April 23, 2020
This article is written by Peevesie’s Mom, a fellow enthusaist of Hindi movie music and a contributor to this blog. This article is meant to be posted in atulsongaday.me. If this article appears in other sites without the knowledge and consent of the web administrator of atulsongaday.me, then it is piracy of the copyright content of atulsongaday.me and is a punishable offence under the existing laws.
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Hindi Songs in Tamil Films – 1
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Hullo Atuldom
There are popular songs which have stayed with us from the first time we heard them. And we have some expectations from them. The song that Atulji posted yesterday is an example. When he heard the song he thought that the song was the handiwork of Anu Malik- David Dhawan- Govinda- Karisma Kapoor; he was right on two counts, only got the lead pair wrong. Similarly I have a song in my head which I thought was a Kishore Kumar-Asha Bhonsle duet. On referring various online sites I came to realize my mistake.
Another thing which I have come to realize is that all those, who we were fans of as youngsters, are all past 60 or 70. Today’s celebrity is in the 80 year old age bracket.
There are singers who are legends and legends who are well known but don’t come readily into ones thoughts. Today is one such legend’s birthday. S Janaki.
She was born on 23rd April 1938 in Guntur Andhra Pradesh. She has had basic training in singing but no formal training in classical music. But she is excellent in voice modulation -she can sing in a voice that will suit the age of the character. She can converse fluently in Telugu, Malayalam, Kannada, Tamil and Hindi. Like most singers associated with film music she has the distinction of singing in 17 languages and a few non-Indian languages like German, Japanese, English and a few more.
Starting in 1957 her career has spanned 6 decades and her association with South Indian stalwarts like SP Balasubramanyam, K. J. Yesudas, P.B. Sreenivas, Dr. Rajkumar etc is most talked about. She has sung under the baton of all the major music composers of India. She had announced her retirement from singing for films and stage performances in 2016 but under pressure from the film fraternity she made a comeback in 2018 for a Tamil film.
I don’t know which was her first song in Hindi movies but Bappi Lahiri was impressed by a Hindi song that she had sung for a Tamil movie and decided to introduce her to Bollywood. The song which I was going to present with this post was one of the many that she sang under Bappida’s baton with Kishore Kumar. That is the song I mentioned at the beginning of this post “Main tera tota, tu meri maina” I had initially thought of this happy-go-lucky song for today but midway through the post I thought we should instead listen to the song which impressed Bappida.
With this song I also have achieved one more objective- a few months back Guruji, our very own Arunkumarji had suggested; rather asked why I was not looking for Hindi songs in non-Bollywood movies. This was around the time Sadanandji had started his series on “Hindi Songs in Bangla movies”. Promptly I also drew up a list of Malayalam movies which I knew had Hindi songs, and I was waiting for appropriate dates for sending these songs. I must admit that today’s song was not on that list as I didn’t know of its existence.
The movie to which this song belongs is “Nandu” (meaning Crab, not a person’s name) that released in 1981. It is a story of a Tamil boy who is brought up in North India, comes to Chennai (Madras back then), settles into a job, takes a room on rent, falls in love with one of the girl tenants of the house and has the landlord’s daughter falling in love with him. (Got it from wikipedia, if there are knowledgeable people in the followers please give corrections).
The movie had songs written by Gangai Amaran, Madhukkur Kannan and P B Srinivas. Ilayaraja was the music director. Today’s song is in the voices of Bhupinder Singh and S Janaki. This song was written by P.B. Srinivas and in the video of the song I can only recognize Kutty Padmini (one of the girls), Venniradai Moorthy (the person who urges the boy to sing), and Senthamarai (the man sitting with the boy).
The boy has just said that he can’t sing in Tamil as he is ignorant of poetry in that language (reminds me of how I was 30 years back, not much different now) so Moorthy asks him to sing in the language he is comfortable in. Going by the actors list available on wiki that should be Suresh and the girl who sings along is Aswini.
Wishing Janakiamma, as she is addressed by her fans, a happy and healthy life on her birthday today. Thank you for the enormous stock of songs that you have given us.
Audio
Video
Song-Kaise kahoon kuchh keh na sakoon (Nandu)(Tamil)(1981) Singers-Bhupinder Singh, S Janaki, Lyrics-P B Srinivas, MD-Illayaraja
Lyrics
hmmm mmm hmm
ho ho ho ho o
kaise kahoon
kuchh keh na sakoon
kaise kahoon
kuchh keh na sakoon
ye raaz pale dil mein
kaise kahoon
kuchh keh na sakoon
ye raaz pale dil mein
kayi gulon ka hai chaman
kisi ka ho gaya hai mann
kaise kahoon
kuchh keh na sakoon
ye raaz pale dil mein
kaise kahoon
kuchh keh na sakoon
kaise kahoon
kuchh keh na sakoon
ye raaz pale dil mein
kayi gulon ka hai chaman
kisi ka ho gaya hai mann
kaise kahoon
kuchh keh na sakoon
ye raaz pale dil mein
sapne jo bhi dekhe
saare hain anokhe
sapne jo bhi dekhe
saare hain anokhe
milan ho gaya sapnon mein
milan kyun na ho duniya mein
milan ho gaya sapnon mein
milan kyun na ho duniya mein
reh kar saamne hi
kaisi yeh judaai
?? sanam se nazar milaayi
kaise kahoon
kuchh keh na sakoon
ye raaz pale dil mein
kayi gulon ka hai chaman
kisi ka ho gaya hai mann
kaise kahoon
kuchh keh na sakoon
ye raaz pale dil mein
jitni bhi hon raahen
manzil ko hi chaahen
jitni bhi ho raahen
manzil ko hi chaahen
sabki manzilen apni apni
manzilon ki manzil apni
sabki manzilen apni apni
manzilon ki manzil apni
manzil wo hai jannat
jannat hai mohabbat
manzil ki kisne raah dikhaayi
kaise kahoon
kuchh keh na sakoon
ye raaz rahe dil mein
kayi gulon ka hain chaman
kisi ka ho gaya hai mann
la la la la la la
la la la la la la
la la la la la
la la la la la la
14 Responses to "Kaise kahoon kuchh keh na sakoon"
April 23, 2020 at 11:20 am
Nalini Ji,
Interesting to have one more theme/thread in the blog.
My exposure to Tamil movie songs has been limited, until Ilayaraja, A R Rahman era. As a result I did not havean opportunity to assess S Janaki, the singer. ( though I was familiar with her name as a singer).
I find the song has a stamp of Ilayaraja, and I must say S. Janaki has rendered it so well, i wouldnt have found out that she is from south.
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April 23, 2020 at 2:23 pm
I agree the song has Ilayaraja stamped all over it.
and what i noted was Janakiamma has sung without any accent and Bhupinder has tried to bring in an accent
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April 23, 2020 at 3:19 pm
To identify the actors of Hindi movies and Kannada movies, I always rely on
credit sequences of movies,
and then I compare them with IMDB(which always mislead me,that`s why I always rely on my gut feeling and most importantly childhood memories of watching movies on VCR)and other hindi movie cast providing sites(which are always not correct)
but for Artist identification regarding Tamil movies I have yet to find out a source,…….I think I will use my magazine reading memories………(I should have learnt Tamil alphabets……)
As soon as I get some source/site about South indian Film actors` Idntification, I will let you know………….
and Yes
I have sent lyrics of S.Janaki Song from Aandhi Toofan(Picturised on Hema malini) from 3 years consecutively, which was pending with Atul ji, But this year I haven`t send the same lyrics again, …………..
regards
prakash
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April 23, 2020 at 9:30 pm
This comes as a pleasant surprise.
I’ve never heard this before – I didn’t even know there was a Hindi song in a Tamil film. This is Hindi imposition. 🙂
Seriously, sweet song to listen to.
Typical Ilayaraja, yes.
And yes, Bhupinder tries to put on a Tamil accent, making him sound a bit like SPB. 🙂
Good fun listening to this,
Thanks, Peevisie’s Mom. 🙂
April 24, 2020 at 8:24 am
Peevisie’s Mom,
S Janaki has sung a Hindi song ‘tu hai raja main hoon raani’ in Telugu film ‘Akali Rajyam’ (1981) . The song is picturised on one of your favourite actresses, Sridevi.
April 24, 2020 at 8:33 am
I forgot to mention that this Hindi song was also in the Tamil version of the film ‘Varumayin Niram Sivappu’
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April 24, 2020 at 10:21 am
I discovered this song too as i sat to write the post. I think the Telugu movie was a dubbed version of the Tamil movie. That movie was remade in Hindi as Zara SI Zindagi. And it is in my list of favourite movies in Hindi and Tamil
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April 24, 2020 at 8:47 am
Thanks Nalini ji, for taking my suggestion seriously. If I remember right, I had attached a Malayalam film Hindi song also with my suggestion, to facilitate. Whether it is Malayalam or Tamil or even Telugu, does not matter. What matters is to take forth what Sadanand ji has started on this Blog.
Congratulations and thanks.
Janaki is my favourite also, along with old timer Jikki.
-AD
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April 24, 2020 at 10:19 am
Thank You for seeing the post. I was waiting for your response. In the course of writing this I discovered a song or two in Tamil movies. Hope to cover them
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Atul’s Song A Day- A choice collection of Hindi Film & Non-Film Songs 
April 23, 2020 at 7:56 am
Actress lip syncing for the song is Ashwini(who also appeared in kannada movies like Hemavathi(1977), Savtri(1980)
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April 23, 2020 at 9:39 am
Thank You Prakashji for helping recognise her. Can you give more info about the hero Suresh. I know there was one other Suresh who was called “Panneer Pushpam” Suresh in tamil movies, he came with Sitaara in “Puthu Vasantham” if I am right. And then there is Suresh Gopi of Malayalam.
Now I am looking for info on the Suresh who plays hero in this movie
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April 23, 2020 at 11:33 am
Madamji give me some more time, I will try, the problem is I don’t understand Tamil font, as I am well versed with kannada font only, then another point is that I am more exposed to Hindi & Kannada movies of 70’s, 80’s……. But I will try…. Thanks for writing to me.. And thanks for my favourite Janaki Amma’s song and post on her, it’s a rare, Anmol treat for me as I am a die hard fan of her voice Regards
Prakash
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April 23, 2020 at 2:21 pm
BTW i was expecting a song from you today because I remembered that S Janaki was a singer you like.
Can you tell me which sites to look for to get information on these south indian actors
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April 23, 2020 at 3:20 pm
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