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Na boley tum na maine kuchh kaha

Posted on: November 18, 2013


This article is written by Arunkumar Deshmukh, a fellow enthusiast of Hindi movie music and a regular contributor to this blog. This article is meant to be posted in atulsongaday.me. If this article appears in sites like lyricstrans.com and ibollywoodsongs.com etc then it is piracy of the copyright content of atulsongaday.me and is a punishable offence under the existing laws.

Today (18 november 2013) is the Birthday of Shri Harmandir Singh ‘Hamraz’ ji. His monumental work in recording the musical history of Hindi films is well known all over the world. I wish him ” A Happy Birthday” through this Blog and I dedicate this article to Shri Harmandir ‘Hamraz’ ji.

This is the last song from the film, “Baaton baaton mein” (1979),to be posted on this Blog.

“Baaton Baaton Mein” (1979) was a very hilarious film, which had a reasonable success at the Box Office. This was one of those films from the period when the “Middle class looking” Hero Amol Palekar was in full form.

From time to time, some films are made on minority communities like Christiana and Parsees. Some of the films made on Parsi backdrop are, The little Zizou, Being Cyrus, Such a long Journey, Parzania, Pestonjee,Khatta Meetha and the latest one Shirin Farhad ki to Nikal Padi.

Christian community in India is divided in two types. One is the Anglo Indians and the other is the Indian Christians. During the British period and for few years after Independence,the Anglo Indian community was noticeable ( they were working in large numbers in Railways, I remember), but these days one hardly comes accross any Anglo Indian family. What we mostly see is the Indian Christian families from Goa, Karwar, Kerala and Tamilnadu. These families are usually found in clusters in certain areas of the towns, where you find them living together. Most of these families speak the local languages like Konkani, Malyali or Tamil etc.

While characters from these communities appeared in many Hindi films, entire films made on the Christian backdrops are not many. Some films like Baaton Baaton mein and Julie had become very popular. I guess some films like Socha na tha, Trikaal, 36 chaurangi Lane, Sins and Black also had Christian backdrops.

Film Baaton baaton mein was directed by Basu Chatterjee, who had already attained fame directing light comedy films on the day-to-day life of common people (read middle class people),like Rajnigandha, Piya ka ghar, Saara Akash, Chhotisi Baat, Chitchor, Priyatama, Dillagi etc. He had been a successful Screen play writer too (Chameli ki Shaadi) and wrote dialogues of his films himself mostly.

The music of Baaton baaton mein was by Rajesh Roshan. Rajesh had got music in his blood, but initially he was not interested in music at all. When his mother, Ira Nagrath (nee Ira Moitra-who was a singer and his father’s pet disciple, when Roshan was working in A.I.R. Delhi), started her music lessons again-this time from Ustad Faiyaz Ahmed Khan- she insisted that Rajesh Roshan too joined her. Later Rajesh learnt a lot from guru Ramprasad Sharma (father of Pyarelal of the L-P duo and a Guru of many composers like C.Ramchandra and Roshan etc). When he grew up, for many years he worked as an arranger with L-P duo. All this stood him in good stead when his father Roshan died suddenly.

Rajesh Roshan first gave music to KUNWARA BAAP-74. Two of its songs,”Saj rahi gali meri maa” (lip synced by Hijras/Eunuchs) and “Main hunb Ghoda,yeh hai Gaadi” sung by Kishore and Mehmood were quite popular. Later Julie brought him his First Filmfare award with Preeti Sagar’s ” My heart is beating”.

However Rajesh Roshan was never known for his originality. His greatest asset was support from L-P duo and Lata Mangeshkar. He mostly plagiarised from outside for his films.

Even in Baaton Baaton mein, two songs- “Uthe sabke kadam” a popular number was a copy of “Polly wolly doodle” and the other song, viz. the song under discussion, “Na bole tun na” was a straight lift from American Marching song “when Johnny comes marching home ” as well as ” Ants go marching” a Nursery Rhyme. Both the original songs can be heard on You Tube any time.

Baaton baaton mein was a delightful comedy film made by Cine Eye films. Ira Nagrath was the assistant of Rajesh Roshan in this film. There were only four songs in the film. Three of them are already posted and today’s song is the final song from the movie to be posted here.

The cast of the film was Amol Palekar, Tina Munim, Pearl Padamsy, David, Piloo Wadia, Leela Mishra (It was a great fun to see our dear old ‘Leela Mausi’ in frocks in this film !), Ranjit Chaudhari etc. The film had another name also-“A casual affair”. While the director tried to comment on the love episode of the lead pair, several other aspects are also highlighted like the social life of Christians, their priorities and Goals in life. Like any other mother, Heroine’s mother here too is worried about the marriage of her daughter.

The story of the film is-

In Bombay the local trains carry millions to work and back home daily. Tony ( Amol Palekar), a young commercial artist, travels by the local train daily from Bandra to Churchgate. Similarly Nancy Pereira (Tina Munim) a young office goer, and her maternal grand father ,Uncle Tom (David), also travel daily from Bandra to Marine Lines by 9-10 a.m. local train. Tony gets late one day and travels by 9-10 a.m. train and meets Nancy. Nancy had a sad past. She was in love with one of her office colleagues who ditched her. Nancy decides to do away with any boy in her life in future. Her mother Rosie (Pearl Padamsy) and grand father are naturally worried about her. Mother is very keen to see her daughter married, she asks all and sundry to look for a match for Nancy.

Grand father finds Tony an ideal boy for Nancy, Tony is invited to Nancys home, Tony falls in love with Nancy, Nancy’s mother feels relieved. Tony has a dominating mother, mrs.Braganza (Piloo Wadia), who has her own ideas about Tony. Once Tony goes to a cinema with her mother. By chance Nancy and her mother are also there. Tonys mother confronts Nancy’s mother and starts hating her immediately. She scolds her son for such a poor selection. The affair of Tony and Nancy gets prolonged. Three months have passed and none has proposed for the marriage. Nancy’s mother feels worried again. Nancy’s mother has an old relative Philomina Aunty (Leela Mishra), about seventy, who visits them off and on. The old relative disapproves of Tony’s continued visit. She demands that the matter be sorted out immediately as she fears Nancy is in for another rude shock. The family panicks. The old relative offers to get a boy for Nancy soon. Tony and Nancy are estranged for no fault of their own.

Tony is in two minds, but his father, Mr.Braganza( Arvind Deshpande) advises him to take Nancy as his wife. Tony meets Nancy but they fight. However soon they both realise that they love each other and the film ends on a happy note.

So,enjoy the foot tapping song from this film now…..

Audio

Video

Song-Na boley tum na maine kuchh kaha (Baaton Baaton Mein )(1979) Singers-Amit Kumar, Asha Bhonsle, Lyrics-Yogesh, MD-Rajesh Roshan
Chorus

Lyrics

Na boley tum naa maine kuchh kaha kaha
magar na jaane aisa kyun laga laga
ke dhoop mein khila hai chaand, din mein rat ho gayi
ke pyaar ki bina kahe sune hi baat ho gayi
na bole tum naa maine kuchh kaha kaha
magar na jaane aisa kyun laga laga
ke dhoop mein khila hai chand, din mein rat ho gayi
ye pyaar ki bina kahe sune hi baat ho gayi

badal rahi hai zindagi
badal rahe hain ham
ho ho ho ho
ho ho ho

thirak rahe hain jaane aaj kyun mere kadam
mere kadam mere kadam
Kisik o ho naa ho
magar hamen toh hai pata

Na bole tum naa maine kuchh kaha kaha
magar na jaane aisa kyun laga laga
ke dhoop mein khila hain chaand, din mein raat ho gayi
ke pyaar ki bina kahe sune hi baat ho gayi

ghuli si aaj saanson mein kisi ki saans hai
saans hai
saans hai
yeh kaun aaj dil ke mere aas paas hai

aa aa aa aa
aa aa aa

yeh dheere dheere ho raha hain pyaar kaa nasha
na boley tum naa maine kuchh kaha
kaha
kaha
kaha
magar na jaane aisa kyun laga

laga
laga
laga
ke dhoop me khila hain chand, din mein raat ho gayi
ke pyaar ki bina kahe sune hi baat ho gayi
ho ho ho ho
ho ho
ho ho
ho ho
ho ho
ho ho
ho ho
ho ho
ho ho
ho ho
ho ho

yeh lag raha hai saari uljhanen sulajh gayin
sulajh gayin
sulajh gayin
Yeh dhadkanon ki baat dhadkanen samajh gayin

ho ho ho ho
ho ho ho

naa boliye ke bolne ko kuchh nahin raha
Na bole tum naa maine kuchh kaha kaha
magar na jane aisa kyun laga laga
Ke dhoop mein khila hai chand, din me rat ho gayi
ye pyar ki bina kahe sune hi baat ho gayi
na bole tum naa maine kuchh kaha kaha
magar na jaane aisa kyun laga laga
ke dhoop mein khila hain chaand, din me raat ho gayi
Ke pyaar ki bina kahe sune hi baat ho gayi
ru ru ru ru
ru ru ru ru
ru ru ru ru
ru ru ru ru
ru ru ru ru
ru ru ru ru

ho ho ho ho
hey hey hey hey

10 Responses to "Na boley tum na maine kuchh kaha"

Arunji,
What a true music lover you are!!! Not only you remembered Harmandir Singhji’s b’day, but also wrote a post as a good wish. The monumental work that Harmandir Singhji has done is out of anyone’s imagination. I salute to him and wish him a very Happy B’day too. Thank you for the post and yes, Yipeeeeeeeeee for covering all songs of this movie.

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Shri Birenbhai Kothari also wished him by writing an informative post in Gujarati about his work. Click on the link below. You can translate the article in English by checking the options given on the top of the page. Thanks to Shri Harishbhai Raghuvanshi for sharing this info.

http://birenkothari.blogspot.in/2013/11/blog-post_18.html

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Khyati ji,

Biren ji,is well known to me. He has met me in my house at Mumbai also. I am a regular visitor to his and other Gujarati Blogs of like minded people. Though I am a slow reader of Gujarati,i manage very well. Plus Harishbhai’s list also includes my name.otherwise also I am in regular touch-almost daily- with Harish ji,on E Mail.
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Arunji,
Thanks for the post. Can you please shed information about Shri Hamraazji. thode raaz bataiyega. Thanks

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Nitin ji,

Please read this article from The Hindu. Also lot of info is available on him on Google. Just write Harmandir singh Hamraz and you will get 100s of references on him.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-fridayreview/musics-foot-soldier/article2778714.ece

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Another actress featuring in the song is Shobhini Singh.

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@ Shri.Harmandir Singh Ji- belated birthday greetings here from me !!!
@ Shri.Deshmukh Sir – thanks for this ‘great post’ and congratulations on covering all songs of this movie.
@ Atul ji – Congratulations on ‘Baaton Baaton Mein-1979’ joining to the list of ‘Movies-All Songs Covered’…!!!

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When I was in college, a friend used to an English song whose words began thus: “When Jawans Come Marching Home, Hurrah, Hurrah.” This song is a copy of the song I have described.

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I did a search in Google (where else?) just now and found that the song is “When Johnny Comes Marching Home Hurrah, Hurrah.” It is a beautiful song.

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YIPPEEEE!! Baaton Baaton Mein (1979) joins the ranks of movies where all songs from the movie have been discussed on the blog. Thank you and Congratulations Atul Ji! :).

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